tiens j'ai monté des nylguts sur mon open back.
et bien en fait je ne sais pas trop quoi en penser, la 4ème corde trop epaisse passe sur le sillet de tête ce qui rend la justesse un peu aléatoire
[TABS] Demandes en tous genres ^^
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Banjotourist
- Messages :27
- Enregistré le :jeu. 19 févr. 2009, 22:41
arf... si je comprend bien, je vais bien galérer avec le doigté de Perlman 
Bon, on verra bien, de toute façon, jusqu'à maintenant, je me suis démerdé pour jouer certains morceaux "à ma sauce" (sans prétention)... et je crois que ce sera une bonne base pour apprendre de nouveaux morceaux.
Merci pour vos conseils, notamment en matière de cordes, et les liens.
Bon, on verra bien, de toute façon, jusqu'à maintenant, je me suis démerdé pour jouer certains morceaux "à ma sauce" (sans prétention)... et je crois que ce sera une bonne base pour apprendre de nouveaux morceaux.
Merci pour vos conseils, notamment en matière de cordes, et les liens.
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GeoBar
- Messages :987
- Enregistré le :ven. 07 mars 2008, 22:19
- Localisation :Marcillac-Vallon (12)
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Je ne le connaissais pas, non plus. C'est ici en Midi. (faites donc un petit tour sur ce site, il est plein de ressources Old Time, Irlandais et Bluegrass, mais quel désordre!)
S'il vous manque quoi que ce soit, n'hésitez pas à m'en faire part, je vous expliquerai comment s'en passer.
ahn ben le fiddler companion :
MISSISSIPPI SAWYER [1]. AKA and see "Downfall of Paris," "Mississippi Jubilee," "Love from the Heart." Old‑Time, Breakdown. Widely known. USA; Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Pa. D Major (most versions): D Mixolydian (S. Johnson). Standard tuning. AABB. An extremely well-known old-time fiddle tune. One of the earliest printings of a tune by this title is in George P. Knauff's Virginia Reels, volume IV (Baltimore, 1839), where it appears under the title "Love from the Heart" (Knauff also printed a "Mississippi Sawyer" in volume I of his Reels, but this tune is no relation to "Mississippi Sawyer [1]"). Alan Jabbour believes that versions printed in older tune collections suggest the coarse part of the tune was played first, though the fine part is almost universally heard played first among Southern fiddlers in the 20th century. The tune has been known to American fiddlers since the early 19th century, and older fiddlers frequently give the tune's title as "The Downfall of Paris." The melody was known particularly in Texas around 1935 as "Downfall of Paris" and was recorded in 1939 (for the Library of Congress) in Tishomingo County, Mississippi, under that title from the playing of John Hatcher. W.H.A. Williams suggests the 'A' section of the Irish tune "Rakes of Mallow" was "appropriated" as the 'A' part of "Mississippi Sawyer."
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Charles Wolfe elucidates the the title and states that a 'sawyer' was a boatsman's term for an uprooted tree whose roots had become partially anchored to the bottom of the stream bed. Though anchored, the river's currents would cause the trunk to bob up and down, often causing the tree to break surface rather suddenly in front of an unsuspecting river craft. On the Mississippi the problem was of such proportions that special government 'snag boats' patrolled the river in order to protect against such menaces. He opines: "Since the Mississippi River trade played a large role in the economic life of most Americans of the 19th century, it could be expected that most fiddlers of the period would have known what a 'Mississippi Sawyer' was, whereas the term's significance has been lost to the majority of contemporary fiddlers" (notes to Rounder Records "Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers ‑ The Kickapoo Medecine Show"). Mark Twain, a licensed riverboat pilot in addition to being a renowned writer, knew well the potential menace of sawyers in the river and used the term in fashioning the name of his literary hero, Tom Sawyer.
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Ford (1940) relates: "This tune seems to have a strong appeal among old‑time fiddlers. The writer has heard it at old fiddlers' concerts from coast to coast. When played by a fiddler who loses himself in the swing of its rhythm, his listeners may hear the faint tinkle of anvils, the clinking of horseshoes, and the wetting of sickles and scythes and cradles. It is lively and exciting, yet soothing. The authorship is credited to an early sawmill owner, who set up his mill somewhere near the junction of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers. The first enterprise of its kind so far West, it created widespread interest among a people whose only means of producing building materials had been the ax, maul, wedge and rive, and the broadax and adz. Always referred to as 'The Mississippi Sawyer,' the millwright became a noted character and people congregated daily at his mill from miles around. It was a tradition among a later generation that the celebration following the test run of the mill was the occasion for a picnic that lasted for days. The picnickers came in covered wagons, well supplied with good things to eat, and pitched camp in the woods near the mill. All hands took part in handling the logs and lumber as the work got under way, and tables and a dance platform were speedily built of the first boards from the saw. After the day's work an open‑air banquet was served by the woman, and when it was learned that the sawyer was also a fiddler he was immediately chosen by acclimation to play the opening tune of the dance. Thus came into being 'The Mississippi Sawyer', one of the rare old tunes of American fiddle lore."
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It was a 'catagory tune' for an 1899 fiddle contest in Gallatin, Tenn. Each fiddler would play his version of the tune; the rendition judged the best would win the fiddler a prize (C. Wolfe, The Devil's Box, vol. 14, No. 4, 12/1/80).
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MISSISSIPPI SAWYER [1]. AKA and see "Downfall of Paris," "Mississippi Jubilee," "Love from the Heart." Old‑Time, Breakdown. Widely known. USA; Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Pa. D Major (most versions): D Mixolydian (S. Johnson). Standard tuning. AABB. An extremely well-known old-time fiddle tune. One of the earliest printings of a tune by this title is in George P. Knauff's Virginia Reels, volume IV (Baltimore, 1839), where it appears under the title "Love from the Heart" (Knauff also printed a "Mississippi Sawyer" in volume I of his Reels, but this tune is no relation to "Mississippi Sawyer [1]"). Alan Jabbour believes that versions printed in older tune collections suggest the coarse part of the tune was played first, though the fine part is almost universally heard played first among Southern fiddlers in the 20th century. The tune has been known to American fiddlers since the early 19th century, and older fiddlers frequently give the tune's title as "The Downfall of Paris." The melody was known particularly in Texas around 1935 as "Downfall of Paris" and was recorded in 1939 (for the Library of Congress) in Tishomingo County, Mississippi, under that title from the playing of John Hatcher. W.H.A. Williams suggests the 'A' section of the Irish tune "Rakes of Mallow" was "appropriated" as the 'A' part of "Mississippi Sawyer."
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Charles Wolfe elucidates the the title and states that a 'sawyer' was a boatsman's term for an uprooted tree whose roots had become partially anchored to the bottom of the stream bed. Though anchored, the river's currents would cause the trunk to bob up and down, often causing the tree to break surface rather suddenly in front of an unsuspecting river craft. On the Mississippi the problem was of such proportions that special government 'snag boats' patrolled the river in order to protect against such menaces. He opines: "Since the Mississippi River trade played a large role in the economic life of most Americans of the 19th century, it could be expected that most fiddlers of the period would have known what a 'Mississippi Sawyer' was, whereas the term's significance has been lost to the majority of contemporary fiddlers" (notes to Rounder Records "Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers ‑ The Kickapoo Medecine Show"). Mark Twain, a licensed riverboat pilot in addition to being a renowned writer, knew well the potential menace of sawyers in the river and used the term in fashioning the name of his literary hero, Tom Sawyer.
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Ford (1940) relates: "This tune seems to have a strong appeal among old‑time fiddlers. The writer has heard it at old fiddlers' concerts from coast to coast. When played by a fiddler who loses himself in the swing of its rhythm, his listeners may hear the faint tinkle of anvils, the clinking of horseshoes, and the wetting of sickles and scythes and cradles. It is lively and exciting, yet soothing. The authorship is credited to an early sawmill owner, who set up his mill somewhere near the junction of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers. The first enterprise of its kind so far West, it created widespread interest among a people whose only means of producing building materials had been the ax, maul, wedge and rive, and the broadax and adz. Always referred to as 'The Mississippi Sawyer,' the millwright became a noted character and people congregated daily at his mill from miles around. It was a tradition among a later generation that the celebration following the test run of the mill was the occasion for a picnic that lasted for days. The picnickers came in covered wagons, well supplied with good things to eat, and pitched camp in the woods near the mill. All hands took part in handling the logs and lumber as the work got under way, and tables and a dance platform were speedily built of the first boards from the saw. After the day's work an open‑air banquet was served by the woman, and when it was learned that the sawyer was also a fiddler he was immediately chosen by acclimation to play the opening tune of the dance. Thus came into being 'The Mississippi Sawyer', one of the rare old tunes of American fiddle lore."
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It was a 'catagory tune' for an 1899 fiddle contest in Gallatin, Tenn. Each fiddler would play his version of the tune; the rendition judged the best would win the fiddler a prize (C. Wolfe, The Devil's Box, vol. 14, No. 4, 12/1/80).
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Ol'bap
le rapport avec le personnage de Mark Twain Tom Sawyer est interressant
et on écoute une belle version juste au banjo sur la Digital Library of Appalachia
et une autre assez rigolote (les lyrics on dirait du Spike Jones)
et on écoute une belle version juste au banjo sur la Digital Library of Appalachia
et une autre assez rigolote (les lyrics on dirait du Spike Jones)
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Banjotourist
- Messages :27
- Enregistré le :jeu. 19 févr. 2009, 22:41
Ahah pas de soucis, tupeux te charger de mon éducation. Je revandique sans complexe mon amateurisme 
Et il n'est jamais trop tard pour apprendre
Sinon, trés interessant l'histoire de ce morceau!
Perso, ma version préférée est celle ci: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCbxbZRNYk
Si quelqu'un posséde une tablature... (pas encore eu le temps de regarder trés honnêtement)
Et il n'est jamais trop tard pour apprendre
Sinon, trés interessant l'histoire de ce morceau!
Perso, ma version préférée est celle ci: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCbxbZRNYk
Si quelqu'un posséde une tablature... (pas encore eu le temps de regarder trés honnêtement)
Modifié en dernier par Banjotourist le dim. 05 avr. 2009, 19:21, modifié 1 fois.
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GeoBar
- Messages :987
- Enregistré le :ven. 07 mars 2008, 22:19
- Localisation :Marcillac-Vallon (12)
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Y'a des backup(s) en MP3 chez Jay Buckey, le voilà complet. C'est bien mignon, très mélodieux ce morceau! La tab banjo, c'est du mélodique.
J'explore le site des "Tapers", y a du monde, la n'dans! A part les Tallboys, qu'y a t'il comme Old Time de qualité?
J'explore le site des "Tapers", y a du monde, la n'dans! A part les Tallboys, qu'y a t'il comme Old Time de qualité?
S'il vous manque quoi que ce soit, n'hésitez pas à m'en faire part, je vous expliquerai comment s'en passer.